so in my interview with president obama i talked to him about why he hasn't built more relationships with some of those washington insiders who could have helped get his agenda through. >> sometimes michelle and i not doing the circuit and going out to dinners with folks is perceived as us being cruel. it has more to do with us being parents. when we are in town here in washington in the evenings, 6:30 we want to be at the dinner table with our kids and i want to be helping with their homework. i think sometimes that is interpreted as me not wanting to be out there slapping backs and wheeling and dealing. >> if you are reelected your girls will be older and will probably have their own weekend plans. >> it is already starting to happen. >> do you think you might do more outreach with members of congress? >> my hope is that getting past this election people will have an opportunity to maybe step back and say the differences that divide us aren't as a important as the common bonds we have as americans. some of that i'm sure will require additional effort on my part hopefully. the other